I knocked on her door, and I thought she was just sleeping, or she went out and about, you know? Other names that Ermelinda uses includes Ermelinda M Macarthur, Ermelinda M Flores, Ermelinda M Mac Arthur, Ermelinda Flores and Ermelinda M Thomas. 2020 CBS Interactive Inc. All Rights Reserved. Later, he told detectives that Smart was walking just fine and returned to her dorm while he returned to his dorm. Margarita Campos: She was absolutely sober when I left her. He has not been charged in those incidents. Despite Flores sporting a black eye the next day (which he admitted to investigators he lied about) and despite police dogs picking up the scent of human decay in his dorm room, Flores was never charged. I wasnt freaked out.. I would hear many of my friends tell me Oh he grabbed my butt but I never believed them, Laura said. SUSAN FLORES: [Long pause, grabs water bottle] Of course not. Her younger sister Lindsey says their mother urged Kristin to go there. I had zero interest in her, according to prosecutors. PODCAST EPISODE 2: So, with Cheryl's account alone, we have an unsettling picture of Paul . JAMES MURPHY: In May of 96 were you a student at Cal Poly? In high school he was known as a loner. It would be three more years before the property was searched again. A now-retired FBI agent believes those remains were once buried at the home of Floress mother. Kristin Smart has been missing since 1996 and the San Luis County Obispo District Attorney allege she was killed during a rape. But cadaver dogs told a different story. Another frustration for the Smarts: at the time Kristin disappeared, investigators weren't aware that Paul Flores's parents were separated and living apart. San Luis Obispo County sheriff's officials gather under a coroner's tent in the backyard of Ruben Flores' house in the 700 block of White Court in Arroyo Grande on April 13. According to a county probation bail report obtained by the San Luis Obispo Tribune, "biological evidence" was found under Ruben's deck. At the time, they did not know about a missing college student. Two years later Smart would go missing and when suspicion quickly fell on Flores, Jane decided then and there that she may have been one of the lucky ones. But Murphy says there were other incidents that should have raised alarm bells about him with law enforcement from the very beginning. His parents have always denied knowing anything about Kristin's disappearance and insist their son was not involved. Chris Lambert's podcast caught the attention of millions of listeners and sparked new interest in the decades-old unsolved case of Kristin Smart. Join Facebook to connect with Ermelinda Thomas and others you may know. Resides in Blue Bell, PA. Kristin's mother, Denise Smart, spent Memorial Day weekend at a swim meet with her two younger kids. And these girls are inviting us out. James Murphy: And it's 2:30 and 3 o'clock in the morning at Cal Poly this is not a a location from which Paul alone could easily move a body without a vehicle. I was crying.. And DNA evidence could not be found linking any other evidence to Kristin. But the investigation is ongoing. It's, like, she has nothing on her. Some even wondered if she might have been drugged. The charming blue house with the picket fence on East Branch Street seemed perfect. Most students had taken off but Kristin had stayed on campus. James Murphy: That suggests that something bad happened in Paul Flores's dorm room. First published on November 27, 2020 / 8:14 AM. PODCAST EPISODE 4: So, I walk him up to his sister's apartment, and all of a sudden, he just like picked me up, carried me inside, turned around and shut the apartment door, and locked it. Alicia Tejada is the field producer and Addison Briley is the associate producer. Smarts body has never been found. I never realized its the same guy that harassed [Sarah], he said. But perhaps Mary Lassiter's most disturbing story was about being awakened very early in the morning by a beeping sound coming from the backyard. Chris Lambert: I didn't know the scale. Susan Flores's backyard has been the focus of widespread speculation. This 9-room home sits on 40,000 square feet of land, which was purchased by the Flores family in 1990. Ruben Flores defense attorney is slated to deliver his opening statements when the two trials resume on Thursday in a Monterey County courtroom. They took off running, Jane said. No charges were filed, but Lambert discovered Flores's troubles started at a young age. When Lambert later told Kristin's mother, Denise, about those early morning beeping sounds in Susan Flores's backyard, he said her reaction was "shock we just kind of stared at each other for a good long time I think it took a while to settle in, that this could potentially be huge." Susan's house was finally searched in March 1997 nine months after Kristin disappeared but nothing was found. But soon Flores took his shot with Jane after another drop-off at her moms house. They told her Kristin had not been seen all weekend and asked if Kristin was with them. I think they're just waiting to see what the outcome is going to be. SHERIFF IAN PARKINSON [to reporters]: It's been a puzzle and it's a very slow process to find each of those little pieces some of that information came to light through the podcast many of you are familiar with. When Kristin Smart disappeared, Paul Flores's parents Susan and Ruben were separated and living apart. She was she was frantic I don't understand this, you know? Chris Lambert: Paul keeps stopping along the way and letting Cheryl Anderson know, you can go on ahead. Little is known since the proceedings are kept secret, but no charges were ever filed. But Paul Flores remained behind bars help without bail. Paul Flores was the last person seen with Kristin Smart before she vanished in 1996. Despite identifying a prime suspect for her murder, law enforcement did not arrest Flores until 2021. A judge on March 30 ruled that the trial would be moved out of San Luis . I was like, Who the hell do you think you are?. JAMES MURPHY: Would you state your full name for the record please. After all these years, Sheriff Parkinson says that Paul Flores continues to be their number one suspect. In the fall of 1996, a young mother named Mary Lassiter was looking for a house to rent in Arroyo Grande, California. I'm going to go back to the dorms. James Murphy: And it says wrongful death and then I put murder. That would be Susan Flores, the owner of the home where Flores is suspected to have buried Smart. School was over, so campus police found an empty room that had been sanitized by the university's cleaning crew. They left me there and knock on my moms door really hard and then ran off, Jane, who is telling her story for first time, said. That warrant allowed them to dig up the backyard, but deputies chose not to excavate. And for the first time clues about what may have happened to Kristin Smart. She was the last person other than Paul Flores to see Kristin alive. James Murphy: Somebody found an earring that they say was Kristin Smart's jewelry in the driveway. He gets his arm around her torso and her arm around his neck, and he's helping her walk. In 2011, the Smarts hoped those boulders would become a little lighter when Ian Parkinson became the new sheriff of San Luis Obispo County. She told him that shortly after moving in, she was washing her car in the driveway and found an earring next to the left front tire. Murphy and Sinclair promised the Smarts the billboard will stay until their daughter is found. Smart, a native of Stockton, was nearing the end of her. I dont like to talk about that day.. or even her keys. Last month, authorities searched Ruben Flores' home in Arroyo Grande. Empresa. Ermelinda Flores' property in Washington state has been searched by investigators in February 2020. Two days after Kristin Smart vanished, Paul Flores went to the Arroyo Grande Police Department because of an outstanding DUI warrant. Flores replies that he was just fibbing. I dont know of any lying Ive done. JAMES MURPHY: Your husband have information as to where Kristin Smart's body is located? On April 13, 2021, almost 25 years after Kristin Smart went missing, longtime suspect Paul Flores, 44, was arrested at his home in San Pedro, California, and charged with murder. James Murphy: There has been no other suspect. Chris Lambert: Kristin became incredibly intoxicated, whether she was drugged or whether she just had a lot to drink in a short amount of time She ends up passed out on the lawn next door. And had law enforcement drilled a handful of holes in Floress mothers backyard to search for evidence that Smart might be buried there, perhaps Floress alleged serial sexual assaults would have been prevented. They asked him not to use their names: PODCAST EPISODE 2 | WOMAN #1: Well his nickname was "Scary Paul.". But as Chris Lambert learned, campus police did not act right away. 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Copyright 2023 CBS Interactive Inc. All rights reserved. Deputies seized a mattress cover from the bed with a blood stain. "48 Hours" has learned these suspicions center around evidence found during that 2020 search of Paul Flores' home. Just two years. DAN DOW [press conference]: We don't have evidence sufficient to charge anyone else at this time. This boy walked up to me and said Oh hey, you need to be careful of that Paul Flores, I think hes stalking you. D.A. Murphy and his wife, Garin Sinclair, agreed to take the case pro bono promising to go after Paul Flores and put pressure on the sheriff's office. I guess the answer is yes. In the crowd, taking it all in, was that podcaster, Chris Lambert. I remember being home watching the news about Kristin Smart and there goes Paul, she recalled. DAN DOW [press conference]: We intend to use evidence of other sexual crimes in this prosecution to prove the facts necessary for the attempted rape in this case. All four dogs, including one who was considered the best of the best, separately signaled an alert indicating the presence of human remain odors only in Flores room. But remarkably, the same thing happened with three more dogs. JAMES MURPHY: Does your son have any information as to where Kristin Smart's body is located? "48 Hours" looks back to their arrests and how the saga began. . Early on, a small group of volunteers also looked for Kristin. More than two decades later, Chris Lambert, a podcaster who was investigating Kristin's disappearance, tracked down and interviewed Mary Lassiter. Chris Lambert: They did a significant amount of digging underneath the house. Denise Pearce: Kristin hasn't come home And we're not sure where she is We don't know anything. SALINAS, Calif. (KRON) In the wake of Kristin Smarts disappearance from Cal Polys campus, detectives knew Paul Flores was lying through his teeth, according to prosecutors. The National Read Across America Day takes place every year on March 2, Geisels birthday. Flores roommate was out of town that weekend, and Paul knew he had three full days in that room (alone), Peuvrelle told the jury. Not at all. She never saw accepting the rides as anything but wholesome. Facts will show law enforcement was aware that they did not have a case. But Parkinson acknowledges it hasn't been easy. But as Chris Lambert learned, Flores's pattern of behavior with women didn't stop. AKA: Susan Flores, Sue P Flores. Sarah said shes still haunted by Flores. I have this PTSD fear of someone kicking the door in.. I don't think she went back to her dorm at all. He promised the Smarts that solving Kristin's case would be a priority. Through the years, the Smarts have kept pressure on the Flores family. That witness initially came forward to Chris Lambert, who passed the information to the sheriff's office and Murphy. Acerca; Prensa; He has never talked. What happens next? San Luis Obispo County. They were giggling as they were dragging me, the now 39-year-old woman told The Daily Beast. Her parents, Denise and Stan were both educators who encouraged their kids' passions. Thats how we metI was walking and he pulled over and said to me Hey, Ill take you to school, she remembered Flores asking her. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Garin Sinclair: He never once turned to the Smart family and said, hey, we have an earring, we'd like to show it to you to see if it matches any of your daughter's jewelry. Flores said he suffered the black eye during a basketball game he played with friends in Arroyo Grande on Monday. The backyard was all concrete except for a couple of areas where planter boxes had been created by cutting out the concrete and filling them with soil. Our roommate came in and yelled Leave her alone. Just five months before Kristin disappeared, San Luis Obispo Police received a call from a student living off campus. Lindsey Smart Stewart: She had traveled the world before she even made it to college. Chris Lambert: Kristin's father would come down and hike every trail he could find on the Central Coast. Nineteen-year-old Kristin Smart disappeared Memorial Day weekend of 1996. PODCAST EPISODE 3: Something shiny catches her eye next to the front driver side tire. That's how the Lassiters learned that their landlord's son, Paul, was the prime suspect in the disappearance of a young college student in nearby San Luis Obispo. Chris Lambert was just 8 years old when Kristin Smart vanished on her way home from a college party in San Luis Obispo, California. Chris Lambert: They're hopeful, but they've also been let down so many times before. Over the years, Susan Flores's backyard has been the focus of widespread speculation because of stories like the ones Mary Lassiter told Chris Lambert. Just days after she disappeared, an incident report seemed to imply that Kristin's behavior contributed to her disappearance. Smart was talking with and socializing with several different males at the party. Im good, he said in response to questions about Smarts disappearance. Monterey County Weekly photographer Daniel Dreifuss shot these photos during yesterday's opening statements.#KristinSmart pic.twitter.com/Qlanj3fKK6. Jonathan Vigliotti: Is this a case that takes a miracle to solve? I told him, You never do this again! PODCAST EPISODE 3 | MARY LASSITER: It was like a red thing and it was like a smudge-like fingerprinted look on the back, just red, like maroon, like old looking and the smudge that it was like half a fingerprint. Ermelinda Flores, 81. The mother is washing her car in the driveway at one point. Ruben's attorney, Harold Mesick, dismissed the evidence against his client as "so minimal as to shock the conscience.". To declare to the public if you stay quiet, you will get away with this. Those were kind of unspoken things. PODCAST EPISODE 4: At 8 a.m. on June 19th, 2000, a team of sheriff's investigators knocks on the front door of Susan Flores's East Branch Street home. Paul Flores - Cal Poly student and Food Science major, Paul Flores lived on campus in room #128 of Santa Lucia Hall Dormitory. Copyright 2023 Nexstar Media Inc. All rights reserved. In April 2021, investigators charged Paul Flores, left, with Kristin Smart's murder, and his then-80-year-old father Ruben, as an accessory after the fact. Personal details about Paul include: political affiliation is unknown; ethnicity is Hispanic American; and religious views are listed as Christian. And that's what I've been doing for a long, long time, along with a lot of other people. Laura said Flores worked a construction job while attending school but that he was very secretive and she suspected he was in college forever so that his mommy kept paying for his housing and classes.. I dont like to talk about it to even him, she said. Lindsey Smart Stewart: It just amazes me the amount of evidence that's available, yet nothing has happened. Wiggot: pfo5vr0 total 1100 m2 800 m2 de area prod. Murphy immediately filed a wrongful death lawsuit against Flores in civil court. Denise had told Lambert that her daughter had been working as a lifeguard at the university's rec center, and every morning Kristin's watch alarm went off to make sure she was at the pool by 5 a.m. Over the years, law enforcement and the Smarts' lawyers have searched Susan Flores's backyard several times, but nothing has ever been found. so eventually he unlocked you know, the apartment door, and I left. I was like It wasnt. Ann-Marie Christian: became friends with Kristin in elementary school. Like the rest of the family, Kristin was an athlete. It is believed she is deceased, but there is no evidence of what happened to her after Paul Flores left her. Flores and Smart were both 19-year-old freshmen Cal Poly students who attended the same party the night she vanished, on May 25, 1996. I did have guilt about that. At the time, she was a 19-year-old freshman at Cal Poly in San Luis Obispo, who'd grown up in Stockton, Calif. On the night of her disappearance, she was spotted at a house party, which she left with three people. Like his black eye, seen faintly in a mug shot taken by the Arroyo Grande Police just by chance two days after Kristin vanished. The podcast, "Your Own Backyard,"has drawn millions of listeners and focused renewed attention on this decades old case. James Murphy: To see them in custody was a feeling of great joy for me. Smart appeared to be under the influence of alcohol on Friday night. But you have to understand, she was a really independent free spirit. In the fall of 1996, a young mother named Mary Lassiter was looking for a house to rent in Arroyo Grande, California. James Murphy: The podcast is out. When asked about how he got the injury Flores told three different stories. Flores admitted he promised another student, CherylAnderson, that he would make sure Smart made it back to her dorm room in Muir Hall safely from the party. The Kristin Smart Scholarship has been established by her family to help other college bound women pursue their dreams. He believes that meant "the batteries went dead and that the object that was beeping hadn't been there very long.". Ann-Marie Christian: Her parents reminded me of my parents. San Luis Obispo County. A woman nearby screamed at Flores to get off her and threatened to call the cops, she said. After the four students had walked about halfway back to the dorms, Paul Flores told Davis and Anderson, Dont worry I got her, Ill take her from here, according to prosecutors. The Smart family. He was the last person seen with her. Kristin Smart went missing from Cal Poly in 1996. Just two years later Flores was named as the sole suspect in the disappearance of another woman under almost identical circumstances: Kristin Smart. The Arroyo Grande cops, Jane said, favored Floress story that she willingly drank and had sex that night. I said, Stop it. Ruben Flores and his estranged wife Susan have always denied any role in Kristin Smart's disappearance. It is also what the Smarts have been waiting for for more than a quarter of a century. It might be helpful to the investigation.. The next morning, Margarita waited to hear from Kristin. Prosecutors Think Paul Flores Tried to Rape Kristin Smart in Dorm Room Before Killing Her On April 13, Paul's father, Ruben Flores, 80, was also arrested and charged with being an accessory. Jonathan Vigliotti [with Lambert outside of the the dorms]: Paul and Kristin then make their way here. They have not been able to proceed with the civil case while there was an ongoing criminal investigation, but that didn't stop them from following every lead and preparing for an eventual trial. I told her I didn't I didn't want to go. Critics called. Greg Fisher and Michelle Fanucci are the development producers. Neither the ex-boyfriend nor Sarah saw Flores again until they read The Daily Beast story on Kristin Smarts disappearance, where Floress mugshot appeared. These new allegations against Paul Flores are very troubling and deserve to be thoroughly investigated. (No video or audio). Flores defense attorney, Robert Sanger, told the jury, This obviously is a tragic situation in one sense or another. Flores said he suffered the black eye during a basketball game he played with friends in Arroyo Grande on Monday. But 22 years later, when he couldn't find any recent stories about the case, he decided to do something. Copyright 2023 CBS Interactive Inc. All rights reserved. It's just a motivator for me. But Sarah kneed Flores in the groin and kicked him in the shin before dashing off into the party. One female cousin called Flores a pervert. I've got her. Four months after that futile search, Paul Flores was brought before a grand jury. The dogs were trained and certified to detect human remains. Margarita Campos: they were, like, "are you sure she didn't go out of town?" She spent a summer in London, was an exchange student in Venezuela, and a lifeguard at a camp in Hawaii. "48 Hours" agreed. It has been called Dr. Seuss Day because of this. Jonathan Vigliotti: She had just 40 yards to go and yet she vanished. James Murphy: An eyewitness actually documented the fact that throughout the night that there was activity in the area of the underside of that deck. Smart was last seen with Flores's son Paul. During opening statements of Flores murder trial this week, prosecutors played a video of Flores stumbling over questions from Cal Poly campus police detectives inside an interrogation room. and offers to help. James Murphy: So why would Susan Flores, her boyfriend, and Ruben Flores be up all night long working under that deck. 1996 was before the #MeToo movement, Peuvrelle told the jury. James Murphy: They brought in the first dog and they'd had the dog go through the dorms. Chris Lambert: He actually hit his eye on his steering wheel in the middle of the night while changing his stereo. James Murphy: Every day. Susan P Flores Age 71. She left them only after he promised to take Kristin back to her dorm. The Lassisters say soon after, strange postcards began showing up in their mailbox. DAN DOW [press conference]: The allegation against Ruben is that he helped to conceal Kristen's body after the murder was committed. It wasn't until Kristin's roommate returned to their dorm room, that Margarita realized Kristin never came home. So now you've got three different stories about how he got that black eye. She regretfully denounced them as cruel rumors at the time. Chris Lambert: And that's when they're told that earring has been misplaced. Susan Flores and her boyfriend were never charged in the case. Still she stuck around until Flores allegedly laid his hands on her aggressively again. PODCAST EPISODE 2 | WOMAN #2: You wouldn't want to be alone in a room with him. Meanwhile, the FBI, who recently excavated earth at Cal Poly to look for Smarts remains, referred comment to the sheriffs office. Get off her.. Flores has never been charged in this case. The Smarts say they tried to file a missing person's report with the local police but were told it was too early, and the FBI told them Cal Poly police were in charge. In October 1996, Mary and her family moved in. I know I didnt have any pants on and he was in me and I could feel him, she said of the three seconds she managed to wake from the slumber that took hold of her. Jonathan Vigliotti | CBS News correspondent: You wanted to go home, and you were trying to find a way to break it to your friend. By herself, which is pretty amazing. For more than two decades, her family, friends, and supporters searched for answers and for justice. Mary Lassiter says the earring she found in the driveway matched the necklace Kristin Smart is seen wearing on this billboard. Flores is charged with murdering Smart as he attempted to rape her in his dorm room. Jonathan Vigliotti: And that weighs on you. They got to the parking lot of an apartment complex. There's no question about it. And there were those nonstop tales of Flores being touchy-feely with her friends. Chris Lambert: They didn't bring cadaver dogs with them. Even when law enforcement let them down, they refused to give up. If you come near her again I will kill you!, His buddy pushed Paul real hard and he fell through a desk before he ran for his life.. to find the next challenge. James Murphy and Garin Sinclair look at the billboard that has been in their front yard for more than two decades. Ian Parkinson: I committed to them that I was going to go back to the beginning and re-examine every piece of evidence that we had. In March 2021, the San Luis Obispo County Sheriff's Office served a search warrant at the Arroyo Grande home of Ruben Flores. And my roommate actually kicked down the door to make him stop. A jury acquitted Ruben Flores of the charge of being an accessory after the fact. In his mug shot, a black eye can faintly been seen. She was gone. Chris Lambert: I think that might have been the biggest misstep that investigators have made to this day. The family attorney refused to comment when reached by The Daily Beast. Chris Lambert: At that point I don't think they had ever dealt with a missing person, a possibly murdered person. Chris Lambert: I wish I knew why. Prosecutors said Smart began falling down shortly after she was seen at the Tiki bar with Flores. Janes mother frantically phoned her father. And yes, we did find physical evidence at, at least two homes. When approached about Janes rape claim, an Arroyo Grande Police Department administrator said in an email that their search revealed no such records exist; therefore, there are no responsive documents. Before their findings, another administrator told The Daily Beast on the phone that because the matter was a sexual assault case it fell under a non-disclosure category and therefore they wouldnt be providing any specific information about it. Ruben lived here with his wife, Susan, and their children, Ermelinda and Paul. That mother, Mary Lassiter, described it to Chris Lambert. And six months later, when Flores was deposed by James Murphy for the Smart's civil suit, he kept quiet. Margarita Campos: But when we got to the house it was pretty dead too, it was really -- it was like a couple of roommates hanging out playing video games And Kristin was, like oh gosh, there has to be something better than this. They're known for being a really safe school.". PODCAST | EPISODE 1: At least once a day I asked myself what are you doing? Once the dogs were let inside the room, they alerted to a corner of Flores bed mattress. Even worse they never sealed his dorm room. Its a fib. 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