And unless theyre pollinated by hand, on the one day that the bloom opens, they wont make anything. And theyre born knowing how to do that. So when you have a culture thats willing to, you know, exfoliate spoiliate, destroy documents in order to preserve a narrative, theres really very little that the culture will not accomplish at the cost of innocent people. Great question. There was another documented case where he had oral sex with his assistant back in the 90s at WC. Youre absolutely right. They had these Global Leadership Summits. The other thing I wanted to talk to you about in you mentioned this in earlier discussion we had about the identity of elders and how so often, and I dont think its just elders, I think its a lot of the senior pastor leadership and staff that their identity tends to become enmeshed with the success or failure of the organization theyre a part of. Pete reminds us that our goal is not to win arguments, but to win people. Okay, how it didnt bring accountability. Thats a rhetorical question. I dont think that he caused the elder board to resign. About Stuart and Jill Briscoe The Elder Board has accepted Petes decision, and his resignation is effective March 31, 2019. Can you imagine how many books that sold her? Briscoe stepped down as senior pastor at the end of 2000 but remained involved in the church and active in overseas missions. We have an open listing for a lead teaching pastor in a what I believe is a healthy church environment. This is a person who is pushing a boundary because they want to do something bad. And sadly, I think they have still. Stuart Briscoe died on August 3 "of natural causes unexpectedly" according to a tweet from his son, Pete Briscoe. Board members selected in such a way are unlikely to honor their fiduciary duty ahead of their desire to please the board chairman or senior pastor. One of those is that you had your senior pastor resign kind of suddenly. And you have to, there must be assiduous accountability going on in the life of someone who has the big radio show has the big platform, his platform at conferences and large organizations, because the temptations are greater. WebBriscoe says that he wants Bent Tree to be a place where people can agree to disagree over this issue. And in the few times Ive spoken with him, I found his insights to be profound. So thank you. God showed him through that sermon how his trip was actually isolating and began a process of transformation. Well, and I hope there are Christian leaders listening to this who take note because is the time of just being silent and thinking that because youre silent, nothing will come back on you, thats past. Thats not to say there arent authentic people there. WebLearn More About Pete Today - Pete Briscoe God loves you to distraction, There is nothing you can do to make Him love them more or less, And, that Life with this Lover God is rich beyond description, regardless of your performance. The other woman that Mitch represented will remain confidential but both these cases enabled Mitch to peek behind the curtain at Willow Creek and view upclose some of the dysfunctions that led to that scandal. You have to have a strong culture of accountability. Pete Briscoe, Stuart and Jills youngest son, was a key contributor to the ministrysteaching team from 2003 to 2021. In fact, back in the late 80s, early 90s, we went to Willow Creek and we had a wonderful experience. If they have the character to lead the accountability will help keep them you know, keep them honest, so to speak, you know, its kind of like when you put a bike lock on your bike that. But now my faith in the whole institution is shattered. But what happens when there is a sheep within the flock who needs to be defended? And I can only imagine what the economic forces are behind the scenes for that, but it really disappoints me, that that hasnt happened. God uses the faithful and generous support of people like you to continue to change lives through the ministry of Telling the Truth. You know, I think, Julie, the other thing that was really whacked out about Willows elder board, and I didnt find this out until very late in the representation was they operated by design out of unanimity. The small tape recording process drew the attention of many people who were eager for a copy of the teaching they heard at church to share with friends and neighbors. And yet youre still in a megachurch, multi-site church. Im good friends with Vonda Dyer, who worked at Willow and was one of the women who bravely came forward with her story about her interactions with Bill Hybels. You know, when you have somebody like Bryan Loritts, who when hes talking about why when he was at a former church, he didnt disclose to the church that they had a sexual predator among them for six months. Yeah, yeah, I think I think thats a good word to Julie. And Harvest was the same thing. But you lose the guarding mechanism, which I think in todays in todays cultural moment, its probably the most important aspect of eldering. Well Mitch, one of the things Ive never discussed is that we used to attend Willow Creek. He, Becky and their kids have been part of the fabric of BT for so long, it is You have to have a lead pastor who creates a strong culture of accountability. Pete has offered to And if youd like to find me online, just go to JulieRoys.com. God is doing a new work both in the lives of the Briscoe's and in the life of Bent Tree. And I think you hit the nail on the head. Pete Briscoe @petebriscoe 12 Dec 2021. And that that was something that taught you an awful lot about how elder board should deal with sexual impropriety or sexual abuse within their own walls. I was just trying to build a relationship, or whatever you just go, But I see you for what you are and youre gonna have to go.. Thats what he was. Please contact us or click here to learn more about how to enable JavaScript on your browser. Put a skin tag on it or a flesh tag. How do spot a safe pastorand can. Heres my belief, Julie, I think the church at large, the big leaders in evangelicalism, we can name names if we want to, and Im sure that people have names on their mind when theyre hearing this, Why were they silent? Vanilla orchids are actually pollinated by hand in most places. I have been a child of God since I was four and in ministry most of my life. I agree, Pastor Bob. He even cites a conversation with Darrell Bock, a member who disagrees with the elders but who also says it is not an issue worth dividing over. If you go back through Willow Creeks archives, you can see all the, you know, the authors of books who came in and were platformed at Willow Creek. Not so much at Willow till after, because I was so wrapped up in the Harvest stuff at that time and the Moody stuff that I didnt really have the capability or the bandwidth to do much reporting about Willow. and Im going to butcher the title. ) So, Willows pride did not allow them to see any flaws in their leadership, especially their premier leader. He has been married to Jill for more than 59 years and has three children and 13 grandchildren. I thought that emails could always be recovered, even after being erased, by a good IT person. And Im good friends with her husband Scott Dyer as well. But it was after a period of I dont know the details, and I dont know how much youre at liberty to say them, but its my understanding he went away for a period of time to kind of reflect and assess how he was doing and how he was handling things. I cant do this authentically anymore. And as hard as the last year and a half has been, I applaud him for that. So you can go to Amazon and enter in Boz Tchividjian and his book will pop up but you need to know what youre looking for because people who are sexual predators, they have an acuity for blending into society in ways that they dont stand out like this is not like, you know, the sexual predator in your church is not some, you know, grease ball sitting outside your kids ministry just kind of looking for a way to get at, like, thats our common image of what a sexual predator is. I learned that from Bill. I dont agree with a lot of his views, but he said something and it is true, we need to have, you know, church leader needs to have two voices, one for gathering the sheep and one for scaring away wolves. Why is it that nobody outside a very small group of women who had no power, really no position, why didnt others come to their rescue? It is a collection of people. I encourage leaders to research their selection criteria carefully before they recruit for their next vacancies. Pete has offered to This is the kind of thing that you would expect from someone whos cruel and not in relationship with Jesus. We were talking a little bit about the elder board. Stuart Briscoe died on August 3 "of natural causes unexpectedly" according to a tweet from his son, Pete Briscoe. Happened so often, I quit altogether. And its so important, I think, for any of us who are doing any kind of ministry at all, if we get our identity wrapped up in what were doing, then what were doing is no longer ministry, its no longer service to the Lord. Pete has offered to In the late 1990s, Telling the Truth was blessed with opportunities to expand the broadcasts overseas with a newly formed Christian radio station in London, Premier Christian Radio, which today remains the only Christian station across the entire United Kingdom, with 1.2 million weekly listeners. Pete Briscoe, our pastor at our church came out in support of the Dyers, which was bold, and it was brave. Because they were required to move by unanimity. Its M-I-L-G-R-A-M the Milgram experiment, but basically American researchers were trying to figure out after World War II, why so many in German society were willing to go along with the Nazis or go along with their leadership, do incalculably horrible things to people. And so when I looked at that in the context of James MacDonald going, you know what, thats the type of accountability that man needed and was denied. Yeah, my understanding of that of the history has come from interviewing witnesses, talking to people who have served in those roles and hearing their stories at Willow. Well, I tried other churches and its more of the same. Literally thousands of people have come to know Jesus under Bill Hybels teaching and yet, he was morally bankrupt at the same time. Its really pride. You know, I believe in spiritual strongholds and things like that. And what lessons can we learn from Willow Creeks mistakes? And he realized that he had missed an opportunity to share Christs love with this person, and he didnt even feel worthy to give this message tonight, you know, and he got teared up and, and Im watching this, you know, as a 20, early 20 something right? Thank God I have Jesus. They show up, they sell books. What I need most is what I dont have. So disappointed in ECFA. And its designed to be acretive, right that they gain strength over time. I was the senior pastor of Bent Tree Bible Fellowship for nearly 30 years. Growing up in a ministry family, Pete watched and learned from his parents and witnessed the reach and power of Telling the Truth 's media outreach. Id like to share a few things as we navigate this loss together. It manifested at the Human Resources level. My personal belief, not speaking on behalf of anyone else, my personal belief is that that structure is designed to fail, because elders cant elder in that structure. WebHi friend, I'm Pete Briscoe. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. That has been documented and proven through therapy notes. This is simply a place where I share the message of Gods unadulterated grace through my preaching sermons and bible teaching. Nobody has said they had intercourse with Bill. In our church, we have a no tolerance policy. Jesus said, I call you My friend. And yet, they lost the PR battle, which is unbelievable. Is that right? For the next 90 minutes, Pete Briscoe enraptured us with his presentation of The Bema.. As I was working through the Willow Creek representation with these women, the thing that kept cropping up to me was the Milgram experiment. The outside investigation report said something along the lines of, Bill Hybels hundreds or thousands of emails with this woman were, not available. Well, as it turns out my understanding from talking to witnesses, those emails were actually destroyed. I havent seen a lot of true owning, true repenting, true confessing. Now, God is leading our friend and leader Pete away from these walls, and we look on with sadness the sadness that comes when a season you love is passing. And they were no friends of ours during the Harvest investigation either. You can read about them at their website Teaching the Truth. https://world.wng.org/sites/default/files/issues/pdf/world_sep012018.pdf, Also, Id encourage you to read the website below. It involves a level of compartmentalization that is truly stunning. Hi Julie, my name is Teresa and I was wondering if Voice of the Martyr was a good place to donate. Now, I coach pastors and business leaders in communications and self-care. Fellowship, Church family, Community. It is also the church in which Pete Briscoe, my former wonderful pastor, grew up in. I wasnt throughout the representation. And I had a wonderful experience. After a failed attempt to travel alone in his truck out west, he came to church with us that very day. The Journal Sentinel reported: Elmbrook resignations are the latest to rock evangelical Christian churches. 1 talking about this. This was an excellent interview and elders need to read this interview. That nonprofit corporation and its bank accounts, thats not what the biblical church is. So appreciate. Lawyers are, by definition, advocates, right? And I saw this at Harvest Bible chapel when I was doing reporting there. This is Chicago Tribune. This is people who are dissillusioned, who wanted big jobs at Willow and didnt get them. But when Scot, the the intra tribal dissenter steps up and says, This is wrong, things shifted. And to do that, we must avoid falling into the trap of our Christian beliefs being pitted against culture in the public sphere of debate. And I thought, I think I knew what he was doing when he named it that, but heres why I think its so ironic. In context, I think my meaning becomes clear as I say soon after, agreeing with Mitchs assessment that unanimity is bad: Absolutely horrible. And I realized that as we were discussing this, that there might be some people who have heard about what happened at Willow Creek, but somewhat superficially, through the headlines and dont really know beneath the surface. It is what manifests. Why didnt others support them? Its not okay. What is it that causes so many people who know better, to look the other way and allow evil to prosper? Briscoe He said, Pete, you should have one lawyer on your board but not more than one. And I believe that there is some really sound wisdom in that. Like if you go back and you actually read his books line-on-line, there are some things in there in those books where you go, For a pastor, that should be unacceptable. But he was attenuating his church culture and culture at large to him in his behavior. WebIt is with heavy hearts that the Elders of Bent Tree announce that Pete Briscoe has submitted his resignation as Senior Pastor. WebPete Briscoe, Stuart and Jills youngest son, was a key contributor to the ministrys teaching team from 2003 to 2021. As I look back on my own four years on staff, Im thankful for the teaching and leadership that Pete Briscoe has brought to Bent Tree, and I know that so many of us have been impacted by his attention to the Lord and quick obedience to however God leads him. And while youre at it, wed really appreciate it if you help us spread the word about the podcast by leaving a review and then please share the podcast on social media so more people can hear about this great content. 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