Let me know your feelings, or at least let me know if your witness, same problem had it fix once a a honda dealer and it happen again what a piece of crap never buy another honda again ,, have a 2006 kia sedona with 300,000 miles on it not one problem at all with the engine it is never going to die like the crappy honda that i own ,, buy kia it is cheaper and a lot better car then the honda you pay for the honda name and have nothing but trouble. This appears to be an obvious failure or defect that Honda is aware of. I will say that I called the dealership numerous times (the service department and manager) and Honda care many times. Honda will voluntarily recall 120 Odyssey vehicles and 150 Pilot vehicles from the 2013 model-year in the United States to replace the engine short block, free of charge. Engine repaired as required under settlement. I said I do not believe so. This has not improved gas mileage after over 16k additional miles. you need to google it. Top Class I have not received the settlement notice. Cardinal Honda in Groton, Connecticut told me I would need a junk yard engine or new plugs to get by temporarily after finding code PO301. He confirmed that and through my dealer and Honda corporate office I had the pay a $300 deductible (instead of $500) to have it fixed because of my past Honda loyalty and because I took such good care of the car and had all service performed as needed at the dealer there. Torrance, CA 90509 100 Days Free Returns quality merchandise Fast (7-Day) Free Shipping 261 Eng. I am trying to see if Honda is paying for any repairs. How do we know if the I asked the original question, but Im not sure I can be much help. Make sure they (the Honda dealer) does all engine work necessary and not just a change of spark plugs and coils, as this issue causes engine damage. I was not offered to a ring job to repair my car, which is what I believe the car needs to stop the excessive oil burning, but the spark plugs were changed. They are all aware that this is a Huge Honda Problem. The case filed is Alex Soto,et al vs Honda Motor Co. 2015 EX (Alabaster Silver) - Shear Comfort seat covers, Husky Liners floor liners, OEM cargo liner, S-VCM Controller, Street Guardian dashcam, Scangauge II, Akebono ProACT brake pads, Raybestos Element3 rotors, Hayden 698 ATF cooler w/Tru-Cool thermostatic bypass valve, Lubegard Red, Draw-Tite 76025 hitch receiver. Did you ever get anywhere with your case manager? I bought this car because I thought it would be dependable and worry free but I have to worry about maintaining oil levels. UPDATE: A federal judge granted final approval to the Honda engine misfire class action settlement at a March 21, 2014, Final Fairness Hearing. :( :(. I still thought it should be covered under the TSB around this whole issue, but the Maintenance Manager said they looked the VIN up and even though it is a 2013, the VIN does not show it covered by that TSB or the Settlement agreement. What fraud! I have brought it in twice for it burning oil, and they have overfilled it so it looks like it is not low when I check it again. Tell them theyre are required by the manufacture to replace this if they take it out. I wasnt going for that crap, especially when I overheard the service manager talking about this defect two years ago. I did ask for the issue to be escalated and I also asked if they had a customer ombudsman that could look into the issue no. RAM, OLSON, CEREGHINO & KOPCZYNSKI, Lawrence Deutsch When I took them to task about it, they backed off their initial stance that it was going to cost me around $6000 to repair. This problem just started on 1/1/2015. 2011 Honda Odyssey, engine light came on, motor shaking, and this was the same situation that happened to us in 2015 with the same vehicle. The manual says to adjust valves at 100k. I agree Im having problems with my 2010 crosstour. We have subsequently suffered a front catalytic converter failure error code P0430 as a result of the problem which caused the failure of the spark plugs. It turned out there were misfires on cylinders 5 and 6 and for some strange reason told me my car was going to have to stay over night because they need to do a second diagnostic. Still have this problem and need to look into this more. I took it to the dealership and after a diagnostics they finally found a code, a cylinder misfire. I need to figure out whether I should plan to trade in the car prior to May 2018. I am also wondering why I was never contacted about the issuse?? I do not have an oil consumption issue (yet) but the oil gets really really dirty very quickly. Vehicle History's team of automotive experts brings you the most accurate and up-to-date used car information. The settlement concerns all U.S. purchasers and lessees of 2008-12 Accord, 2008-13 Odyssey, 2009-13 Pilot, 2010-11 Accord Crosstour and 2012 Crosstour vehicles equipped with six-cylinder engines . Honda told me is wasnt their problem! Read up about VCMuzzler, no side effects of it. That the warranty doesnt cover. If you get a check, let us know! I didnt have an extended warranty so Honda care wasnt much help but the department manager of my Honda dealership was helpful Im not sure if it was because I called so often (and was a squeaky wheel) but he was very helpful. I dont understand how that is fair if it is a known problem. This is word for word (by text) what the service guy told me: The cylinder head had damage engine valves we sent off the cylinder head to machine shop to make sure the cylinder head was okay and is not damaged we are going to have to replace the valve and once everything is installed by the machine shop we will install the cylinder head back onto the motor and everything should be okay.. (133000k miles) on this vehicle, does the timing. Honda has denied the allegations in the class action lawsuit. Was told by dealer too late to repair under warranty even though I bought less than 2 years ago. 3:12-Cv-1377-si (n.D. odyclub.com is an independent Honda enthusiast website owned and operated by VerticalScope Inc. What can we do? my 2009 Honda accord 4 cylinder has check engine flashing, VSA, Triangle all on. These engines are assembled at the factory. I have a 2011 Honda Pilot they unfortunately had the piston rings issue that was common for the model. Now now accelerator is getting worse in losing connection with the engine. The best shops that Ive ever worked in were ones that had a 2 week backlog. ARE WE STILL COVERED FOR REPAIR OR AM I TOO LATE TO THE PARTY? Honda corporate is basically getting away with their Lemons, while we the customer are stuck. My car is in the shop for repairs and Im carless. WHAT???? I will try to contact that lawyer too! We didt have to pay out of pocket expense because it was under warranty. Odds are this was a service writer and the vast majority have little mechanical knowledge or understanding so they wing it so to speak. I now have 63,000 miles on my beautiful van and yesterday the engine light came on and it started bucking like a raging bull. About 2 weeks ago the little evil check engine light came back on. Since it was the same issue, I did what anyone would do and take it to dealership so they can fix it without having to cover any costs. Unfortunately, I am outside of the dates of the. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. We just now are having engine misfires to the tune of $3300. I have a 2010 Honda accord coupe V6 6 speed manual. The same thing has just happened again. The cost should come out around $300, but you'll have to do some of the work yourself. When I get to the dealership I find out that I have a $240 bill. If you conducted your search by VIN, please take immediate action to have your vehicle repaired, as your safety may be at risk. I have owned other Honda vehicles and have never had as many problems with any car. They are not the same as recalls. Had the motor replaced as a result of the piston ring issue/failure in 2021. Is this real??? I was able to get a hold of someone. Can some one help me with being a part of this class action suit? I have never had a cat issue before.. My car is only 6 years old ..this 2100$ repair is a result of misfire. After replacing the plugs (myself the second time) and installing a muzzler device, I've been happily driving the van without issues for over 10k miles, including 2 road trips (one about 500 miles, the other about 1600 miles). Was told by that dealer, that after the first time, the dealership should have replaced rings on the pistons to prevent this from happening again. The dealer finally agreed to fix the car, saying something is wrong with the piston rings and I dont have to pay a cent for the fix. Told salesman to fix the problem with check engine light and vsa light. I was notified about 2 different recalls: one for the airbag and one for the shift lever and immediately took it in and had it fixed. I was told by the service tech that the cylinder head valve problem was caused by the the faulty piston rings and that it had also damaged the spark plugs. Who do I hold at fault for this issue. My 2012 Odyssey had misfiring and they replace coil, spark plugs and etc in 2015. 2013-01-18. There's a product by Kano Labs called 'KREEN' that is made for this purpose. I have a 2011 Odyssey with around 87,000 miles on it. So my question is do I need to sign up for this class action suit? What can I do? I was stranded several times with it misfiring so bad that I did not feel comfortable driving it, several complaints to Honda and no answers so I got rid of it Best thing I did! Should I file for the reimbursement and extended warranty, or should I sue? I have always LOVED Honda, but now I am very skeptical. My 2013 Odyssey suddenly dropped gas mileage in April of 2015 from 28 to 18mpg. I have a 2009 accord and this just started happening a few months ago!!! So far its been running fine! We pay way too much for nice cars for them to have so many problems! It would appear that the excessive oil leakage into the cylinders not only caused the failure of the spark plugs, but has now caused permanent damage to the catalytic converters as well. These cookies do not store any personal information. The VIN entered is invalid. Repaired under warranty less than 1 year ago. 2023 Vehicle History Inc. All Rights Reserved. I'm terrified to have it happen to me againbeing on a busy interstate when my van starts losing power and is difficult to maneuver. Mark all read, Topic Icons: According to the bulletin this is not covered? Not to mention, weve had work done on our cars at the dealership, prior, and no one mentioned this to us. The mileage is about 76.000. We have a 2013 Odyssey that we purchased in 2016. Earlier this week, my 2010 Odyssey was driving rough, in a way Ive never felt before, and the malfunction indicator light was flashing. CARS.COM. I went about two weeks later to get a new battery and the guy at the local place (not the dealer) said that the oil was overfilled. The VCM Megathread - what is VCM, does my vehicle have VCMTuner II (Google their website - it's a direct order), S-VCM controller (Google their website - it's a direct order). DO NOT let them check it without you there. v. Honda Motor Co. Inc.) alleging that Honda manufactured more than 1.5 million defective vehicles that excessively burned oil. Im curious hearing about others experiences. Please advice. I have been having these issues for last few months. It is a 2010 Honda Accord EXL. I have not fully repaired yet. I have a 2009 Honda Accord with 99,000 miles now. Now all 3 catalytic converters in my car have failed at the same time. The fins on the original cylinder heads were straight front to back. Did you ever find out about if there is a lawsuit for the 2008 accord 4cyl because my car is burning excessive oil.I drove a 300 mile trip with a freshly oil change came back home and car started making a funny noise i checked it the next day oil stick bone dry .I just need help finding out how to file claim. I have a 2010 Accord EX, 4-cyl, and had to learn about this as my car (bought at dealer 7 months ago Honda certified preowned) with 50K miles, started having oil light come on and funny noises and hesitations. So we replaced all of the coils and spark plugs. My primary question is this,, santa monica dealer (purchased from) service stated it was normal back in 2009 (service told me they adjusted valves, tried swapping coil/plug, check vacuum leak,). The vehicle burns a quart of oil every 1000 miles. Your email address will not be published. They put in a new short block it only took 2 days ! First let me say that I bought a Honda based on their history of a long life expectancy.now Im a very unhappy Honda owner!! Thank you for the reply. I do have a shudder at steady speeds on flat roads which I attribute to the transmission but in retrospect, it might be a misfire. Engine burns small amount of oil, down about a pint at the next oil change. Is there a way that I can be covered under this same class action suit? The dealership and maintenance crew did not show any concern about this, I figured I was just going to have take the lose and buy a new car. Cylinder number 3. Why are they required to give me a new timing belt? When I search for problems with hondas when I purchased it nothing appeared. They suggested getting a good, used motor at the cost of over $5,000 as it might cost more to figure it out and fix than the motor would cost. Are there any other suits or recalls? We see that there was the recall for the piston rings and updating the pcm but my van no longer falls under this warranty. We experience error codes again with noticeable smoke being admitted out of the exhaust tailpipe. Every vehicle has a unique 17-character Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) that contains information about that vehicle. If this had happened two years ago for you, then Honda would have paid to replace the piston rings in cylinders 1-4 only. I am done with Honda. They did not charge, so that was a plus. Hot The only way I could see them arguing it's not covered is if it was caused by damage/neglect/accident, but this doesn't sound like the previous owner neglected the van. Instead I am going to drive the wheels off of this damn thing. The total was $3200 after negotiating to lower the cost. I checkd the coil packs by switching, all good and also replaced all spark plugs and flushed out the fuel rail. It's always better to address a safety recall sooner rather than later. Even though its the same engine, same oil rings, Honda is refusing to repair it properly. Waiting until engine blows up and they have to replace under extended warranty I purchased when I bought this car in fall of 2014. buy used Honda Pilot 2012 CarMax never told me that I had manufacturing defects buying the 8th of December 2014.a two weeks had a 30 hour trip to mexico and passes to get the check engine, misfire I fix honda mexico but I did not like how they handled the sale mintieron.si I think you know that a car defects do not buy these cars bring several shortcomings and the loser here is the customer, buy used Honda Pilot 2012 CarMax never told me that I had manufacturing defects buying the 8th of diciembre.a two weeks had a 30 hour trip to mexico and passes to get the check engine, misfire I fix honda mexico but not I liked how I handled the sale mintieron.si I think you know that a car defects do not buy these cars bring several shortcomings and the loser here is the customer. Ive always used mobile one synthetic oil for oil changes. I wish they would just pay for it to be fixed. After that, I guess Im on my own. I am wondering if this issue has anything to do with the piston ring failure that caused the motor to have to be replaced. Our shop gave us a cope of the service bulletin with the class action lawsuit and said if it happens again to take to the dealership. I was not original owner. So the question I have is, what should I do for the Honda Pilot? honda pilot cylinder 2 misfire. Everything I read says that misfires cause the temperature to rise in the converters and eventually possibility is that it burns them up. You would think that Honda would have a responsibility, once they know of the issue,, to inform prospective purchasers of the issue. Or unwanted rapid acceleration issues / problems in Honda vehicles!! I took it for an oil consumption test which they said would be two times. I am so irritated with them. Of Course its out of extended warranty! I have spoken to Honda and all they can do is apologize with I am sorry sir, as they will not back up their product. While I did dig up my past maintenance invoices, and I did spend about $1200 fixing/replacing both crush washers and torqued both drain. 3:12-cv-1377-SI (N.D. I ran into the same issues Ive only had my 2008 Honda Accord EXL for 3 yrs & had nothing BUT, problems! The woman on the phone told my husband that we didnt have longevity as Honda owners for her to offer a goodwill coverage request for us to try and get it covered. How do I go about contacting them? What a mistake to buy Honda??? We were told that the warranty program had already expired. They did advise that compression was lost in the cylinders and that was causing the misfires. Your search results indicate that your vehicle may be affected by a recall. I still have all the same issues. Not sure what direction Honda is taking and who is the target buyer. If its just a short term fix I need to get rid of the car before it happens again. Same thing is basically happening with my 2012. VCM causes multiple problems in certain Hondas and Verbatim at. Its unfair to not also be included in the settlement when we had no way of knowing this when we purchased our vehicles!! I have a 2011 pilot . I am reaching out to see if something has been done about your car. I am disputing the $300 and I want to know what they did that actually fixed the problem. optional: Fill the tank with chevron with techron gas, if its not available in your area use any top tier gas, and add a bottle of techron additive to the tank. And this does extend my powertrain warranty for 8 years due to the qualifying code for misfire. I guess shes not concerned with us getting any longevity since its not looking like we will be repeat Honda owners. I am wondering if it did misfire? Wait until the engine is cool. A second wave of checks will go out this Fall, according to the Settlement Administrator. 13V016000. I barely bought the van about 1 or 2 years ago its a 2009 Honda odyssey. Local dealer is wonderful! Hi. Had to replace both. Remember this is the 2011 Odyssey that had the piston rings replaced via warranty in August 2015 at 42,826 miles, and then same issue again in May 2021 at 123,000 miles. Honda obviously is refusing to fix the problem. I have a 2008 Honda Accord V-6 EXL. The vehicle is eight years and three months old. So we replaced them all again. Thanks for listening to my rant and have a nice life:(. My spark plugs were not changed until my Honda Automobile Customer Representative, Yefri Lopez, approved the replacement. Honda is saying that cylinder 6 is not covered under the lawsuit settlement. Did anyone call and did they do anything for you? Mine also makes a high idle rough sound upon starting cold and always wait for it to drop down in idle before taking off. We have serviced our vehicle and kept it up to service. I thhink Honda is an extremely crooked company! It will open your eyes. And if this isnt performed, it will continue to happen. About 5 months ago, my engine light started blinking and the car started driving weird. You will get the same problem less than 15-20k miles down the road after the recall fix, seen it too many times. If things have reached that point I dont understand why they just didnt source a new engine and be done with it. I spoke with Hondas customer relations office and the dealer. This is explained in your owners manual. 20182019 Odyssey and 2019 Pilot and Passport. Dealer said they can not fixed and recommend to buy new van. They say thats causing the sputtering .. Thing is if the misfire issue isnt completely fixed the new cats will just blow again from the heat. I have noticed that my van doesn't seem to accelerate well. The junk yard engine would cost $4000 not including labor. Has anyone else had the same problem with an 08 Pilot? I have the same problem. I'm just worried that my rings may be damaged and may go on to cause other problems. We purchased used from a dealership 12 months ago with 88,000 miles. document.getElementById( "ak_js_5" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); @2023 Top Class Actions. this issue was admitted and corrected at no charge by Honda on 2009 to 2013 Honda Pilot. The car is a 2011 and has around 70,000 miles. They advised it was from the oil getting into the combustion chamber just like the V6s. I think I am done now! 2005 Honda Pilot Problems The car somehow ran beautiful for the first month (maybe) & its been un drivable & had to be towed to a shop several times (at least 4 including now, as of yesterday?) Like are they really not going to pay to fix it even though there is a WHOLE lawsuit about it, and my car has every single symptom stated in the lawsuit?? 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