Britain should be proud of helping to stop (African to America) slavery, like the Republican Party and unlike the Democrats. Im not even saying thats a convincing argument, it has some very serious weak points, just that I reckon its a stronger one than a general appeal about current inequality. She had no interest in esoteric discussions of the war. is that the extra demand distorted the market, led directly to more armed slave-raiding expeditions against rival tribes and so on.. That someone did something 200 years ago means double ought nothing. A fifty quid note in the hand of the first black bloke you encounter. Cest de la trs bonne dialectique conomique. He writes to inflame white guilt, so that you will ACCEPT destruction of your culture. It may not. Arguably wrong in a crimes against humanity way (similar language of natural justice and universal morality indeed being used by the abolitionists and the UK itself when it tried to enforce a ban on the trade) that made it inherently illegal even when governments tried to put it on a legal footing. I personally dont find that as convincing as the case that slaves themselves deserved compensation, and while there were strong political and practical reasons owners were compensated upon abolition but not their former slaves, it doesnt leave a great moral taste in the mouth that twas so. Video, 00:02:30. Will Britain change? That was at the least unusual, particularly from a West European perspective bearing in mind the practice of slavery had pretty much fizzled out there. If more African-Americans started to vote Republican and the Democrats felt they needed something radical to boost their offer, and had enough support from liberal whites and other groups to risk further losses among blue-collar whites, for example. Might, in this case, being 100% of the debating point. Tim may be wrong about stuff, but ..that, ultimately, makes up for his beating squirrels to death for a hobby, Tim Worstall a horrid man who is anti-minimum wage among other repugnant things Socialist News. BLM is after political or financial advantages because of slavery. And even if you personally disagree with it, what would be the strongest argument for some form of legal settlement? MBE, do not entertain these people, not for one second. And, of course, being half white, he is only entitled to half the reparation payment. My great grandfather fought to end slavery in a war. At the Treaty of Utrecht in 1713, Britain was granted the right to supply slaves to the Spanish colonies in the Americas, a right then passed on to the South Sea Company. They deliberately bought skewed mostly male gender balance. "This generation has the greatest knowledge-giving tool ever created and they have access to knowledge that I just did not have when I was younger. Not good. Cotton was a completely different slave economy. Rapidly promoted to sergeant, then second lieutenant, he led white British troops into action and died in 1918, having been mentioned in despatches and recommended for the Military Cross. If you had spare cash or could borrow, investment in slavery was a sure winner, never mind slave rebellions or hurricanes that destroyed cane fields. That is not true. Olusoga is just getting even because he was attacked by the right when he was a teenager. Some other buyer would have taken them if they werent shipped out, and Western (or Arab) traders were just changing the ownership and location, the sins of the slave-raiders being theirs alone to bear. December 2020. In 1861, the Economist stated that nearly four million people in Britain depended directly and indirectly on the cotton industry; a fifth of the entire population. Hes insisting that a household headed by a 21 year old black should have the average wealth of all white households. He presents a one sided and biased picture of slavery which takes no account of the African participation in it. "I don't know why this generation has a different relationship with the past, goes to the past, expecting and looking for different things to earlier generations, but that's really is my observation about them," he says adding the internet has played a huge part. A weekly newsletter helping you fit together the pieces of the global economic slowdown. Reckon they found commenters guessing which parts of a hypothetical argument were meant all part of the fun, In many respects youre one of the posters here whose views on morality Im closest to our personal moralities probably being quite far apart, but I recognise mine as very much the product of my upbringing and surrounding society and know enough about other places and times to realise just how contingent that makes them. Their demands should simply be refused. West Indians fought with the Allies more than a hundred were decorated. The Sokoto Caliphate probably had as many slaves and a lot fewer free men as the Old South. And I dont think this is what reparations campaigners are calling for either, as I understand it their argument includes systematic legacy issues not just the period of slavery itself, so the harm relates more directly to them not just their ancestors. We do not know how great the demand for women was. Its entirely possible to think something was awful without feeling the slightest twinge of guilt or personal responsibility. My great, great, grandfather was one. Joining them is Psychologist and Lecturer at Lancaster University, Dr David Tod, for a fascinating conversation about the psychology of acting. Macmillan, 624pp, 25, David Dabydeen is a novelist, broadcaster, academic and co-editor of The Oxford Companion to Black British History (Oxford University Press), This article appears in the 16 Aug 2017 issue of the New Statesman, Trump goes nuclear, Quick and essential guide to domestic and global politics. He seems to be an interesting social historian and his TV series on the occupants of a single house over the centuries is very good, although I suspect a lot of the research is done by others, I look forward to an even handed expose of the entire slave trade from birth to capture, imprisonment, sale, transportation, arrival, sale, treatment and life while enslaved as well as the UKs role in stopping it, But it wont be on the BBC, and he wont be writing it I fear, @smfs Both of these need proof. The BBC is not responsible for the content of external sites. people like Olusoga would have to pay their share of the greatly increased taxes So he calls himself a Geordie. He is the undisputed King of the Internet Pedants and Lord of the Unnecessary Snark. When I met her, ~1995, I started asking her questions about the war, as I thought she was a fabulous resource of information. The answer is money. But those were in those long-lost days when democrats and republicans could talk to each other and agree to disagree while both leaving the conversation a little the wiser.. It is a good deed that must not go unpunished. There is the Push argument and the Pull argument. Very often shaped by the political, technological and economic forces of the times if the Western way of life had remained utterly dependent on Roman-style slavery, Im not sure wed ever have abolished it even amongst our own inhabitants. Forbes magazine's extraordinarily arrogant contributor Tim Worstall Jeremy Corbyn. Two men managed to escape and were rescued, but not before my great, great, grandfather was beaten, starved and worked to death, his body thrown into the jungle for the animals and insects to dispose of. Purely speculatively, and as a matter of prediction rather than judging whats best, its hard to imagine large-scale reparations ever being adopted in Blighty because the ratio of losers to winners with the vote (presuming eg British Asians would be ineligible for compensation) is going to remain unfavourable and the cost of reparations across the relevant parts of the old Empire (if youre compensating British Jamaicans, presumably youre going to compensate all the Jamaicans in Jamaica once youve accepted the principle) would be considerable. They also ran a slave trade to the Ottoman empire and white slavery in the north without any help from Europeans. The thing we British are ancestrally responsible for is beginning and continuing to pursue the extinction of the sordid business of slavery. The good news is that Black Lives Matter may be that trigger. I brought up paedophilia to demonstrate that there are things not worth my time. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Yet American slave-produced raw cotton continued to feed the 4,500 mills of Lancashire. No one has said we should not consider someone elses viewpoint. Welsh slave-raids into England continued until early Norman times. No. Prof David Olusoga has presented numerous documentaries including A House Through Time and Black and Black and British: A Forgotten History, Olaudah Equiano played a role in Britain's abolishment of slavery, Performer Giles Terera has written a play featuring Equiano, Prof Olusoga said when it was published, people did not believe the book was by an African as it was deemed so well written, Bernardine Evaristo (second left) has launched a series called Black Britain: Writing Back which features novels by black British authors that have been overlooked, Should black history be taught all year round? at scales that were unusual in the long and varied history of slavery, and levels of brutality that stood out too. We are told that an estimated 12.5 million slaves were shipped from Africa to the West Indies and elsewhere in the 18th century. John Mandeville, whose travelogue (circa 1356) was one of the most widely translated books of the later Middle Ages, presented Africans as naked savages living amid heaps of gold to which they gave no value. In the late 1800's and early 1900's, 30,000 Jewish migrants from Russia and Eastern Europe settled in Manchester. It built slave forts on the African coast, some such as Bunce Island in Sierra Leone furnished with a rape house. One in which enslaved people suffered and even died from malnutrition, as the economics of the slave trade meant that it was cheaper, at times, to starve people and then replace them than it was to provide them with food. June 16, 2020 - 20:29 BST Aisha Nozari. Oblong, The race obsessed Department of Education goes to considerable lengths to distinguish Caribbeans and West Africans. Exactly, bis. David Olusoga Historian, broadcaster and film-maker. There is no reason to single White people out for unique levels of criticism. He presented the recent series of A House Through Time on BBC 2, and Black and British: A Forgotten History. Looking at what happened in Haiti or Jamaica or chunks of Latin America, I dont find either well, could have been much worse or what do you expect, Early Modern West Europeans, how could they have known better? to be particularly convincing responses. Africans had a demand for female slaves. if he wants to be an historian he should present a fair and realistic picture of what happened, Your email address will not be published. (At least in our society) Get over it. Thy did not try to grow or raise the next generation. Then a young teenager, he was driven out of his council home, together with his grandmother, mother, two sisters and younger brother, by a sustained campaign of nightly stoning of their windows. Of course if a rule was instituted that only people with white skins had to pay taxes, it might happen. But there have been other societies with slavery where slaves had more autonomy and a greater chance of buying their freedom. Nineteen eighty-four affected him in another way: the publication of Peter Fryers groundbreaking Staying Power: The History of Black People in Britain introduced him to the scholarship needed to understand his position in Britain. Young people - such as Lavinya Stennett who founded the Black Curriculum campaign group - have been calling for change. In the USA? I assume these were usually killed before Europeans turned up and bought them. Supported by African authors of slave narratives such as Olaudah Equiano and Ottabah Cugoano, they held meetings all over the country, attracting huge crowds. Tim says there might be some truth to them for the Caribbean. For some peculiar reason possibly because theres a section of Western society has become very insecure about its own position its being some credence. Olusoga has written stand-alone history books as well as those accompanying his television series. More than a million copies were sold in Britain cheap pirated versions reached a mass readership. Check out the trailer for Peter Pan & Wendy, an upcoming live-action movie directed by David Lowery. But its still awful, even on a historical scale.. If their ancestors had remained in Africa would they be better off than they are now? . Cheap ass presentism. A covering letter would be a courtesy but probably not a necessity. ", TV historian rejects 'nonsense' over keeping statues, What Black History Month is - and why it matters. His exposure to Nigerian culture seems quite limited. Even did something positive. Pope Nicholas V gave his blessing, so long as the Vatican benefited. In dealing with the black contribution to the First World War, for example, he cites popular gratitude and admiration for black Britons among them Walter Tull, who fought on the Western Front. Britain was happy to force the Bevan Boys down coal mines. But Ill tell you what, slavery and human sacrifice, still awful. Shouldnt Olusoga be writing in Ubangi bantu-language? One of the reasons why the American and Caribbean experiences were very different. Davids all done. The following decades were taken up with popular and political rhetoric about immigration and parliamentary acts to limit blacks coming to Britain. But slaves were more valuable, so the British fought the Spanish for a share in the trade and eventually came to dominate it. Shouldnt matter whether some long-dead relative fought long ago for or against (not at all to disparage your ancestors GC, who all sound very sound) in terms of whether somethings your fault. All in all your typical West African is far more likely to have ancestral connections to the slave trade than your typical Brit. Definitely didnt die out with the Romans. 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Well one economist has worked out the amount to be paid (although not on a damages basis, when one imagines blacks might end up paying whites, but on a close the wealth gap basis): A renowned economist has said that $12 trillion should be afforded to black Americans in reparation for slavery to help the close wealth gap. But any planter who deliberately starved his slaves to death would quickly go bust. In 1787, they met in London and set up the Society for Effecting the Abolition of the Slave Trade. If the alternative was that they were killed? There is plenty of slavery about we just do not call it that. Away from the creative arts, the Equiano Project aims to promote race equality and he was mentioned in Parliament during a debate on Black History and Cultural Diversity in the Curriculum. "They were barely known even to historians. Fryers book was monumental, inspiring conferences, publications, the setting up of local history groups, the establishment of Black History Month, and radio and television programmes. Fair point. The many African-American abolitionists, such as Frederick Douglass, who visited Britain from the 1840s onwards, were well received and, again, thousands of people greeted them and raised money to support their cause. Prof Olusoga, the presenter of the A House Through Time TV series, calls it an act of "historical salvage" to bring to the fore the black British figures who had been "lost in the archives, completely forgotten". "I first read it as a student and it struck me as something that was very different to other things I was reading about the Atlantic slave trade. You may concede a point here, a point there. The people in Portland, Seattle and Kenosha are too decadent to fight back. When Olusoga recalled the experience before television cameras last year, he wept. But as someone who is damaged by slavery I have lived in racially mixed communities and I am happy to see Obama and Kamala pay up. And that still stands even if there really are a bunch of torturing murderers out there too. Probably few other societies had as much chance of buying freedom. Like the Nigerian slavers who enslaved and sold the slaves, you mean? Certainly they killed them casually often for religious reasons. In fact he is a biased political campaigner working to attack and do as much damage to Britain as he can. Prof Olusoga is not the only person who has been drawn to Equiano's story. For almost 60 years, there was impasse. In 1860, cotton goods accounted for 40 per cent of all British exports. Not sure theyd do that with modern sensibilities mind you. So there were times when food was expensive, we can call those shortages or famines. Then a young teenager, he was driven out of his council home, together with his grandmother, mother, two sisters and younger brother, by a sustained campaign of nightly stoning of their windows. Sloane witnessed and later became part of a system ruled by terror. Should almost go without saying except of course that it doesnt, since clearly not every culture has the same moral gut reaction to it that I do. What difference has it made? If someone from Portugal or France wants to explain why their country has done a better job of getting the balance right, Im open to hearing it. What has Nigeria ever done for him? 2023 BBC. They are pretty much airbrushed from history, whereas the transatlantic slave trade seems to be wall-to-wall on our TV screens and in our school textbooks. Like Fryers book, Olusogas will inspire and will come to be seen as a major effort to address one of the greatest silences in British historiography. Presumably there were normal times when food was cheap that you fed your workers and didnt seek to replace them in the way Olusoga means. Video, 1894 shipwreck confirms tale of treacherous lifeboat, BBC Radio 3 - Drama on 3: The Meaning of Zong, BBC Bitesize: The Zong 1781-1783 - The triangular trade, during a debate on Black History and Cultural Diversity in the Curriculum, Harry and Meghan told to 'vacate' Frogmore Cottage, Explosive found in check-in luggage at US airport, Fungus case forces Jack Daniels to halt construction, Rare Jurassic-era bug found at Arkansas Walmart, China and Belarus call for peace in Ukraine, Fire knocks out half of Argentina's power grid, Havana Syndrome unlikely to have hostile cause - US, Starbucks illegally fired workers over union - judge. I am not so sure about that although it is another argument. Note, hes a renowned economist. But it is Olusoga who keeps insisting that its the Brits who are uniquely responsible.. Olusoga was born in Lagos to a White mother and a Nigerian father who, I hate to say nautrally, did a runner. This ignorant fellow should study historical facts, rather than believing and repeating lies and half-truths. . And yet anti-black race riots broke out in 1948 in Liverpool and in 1958 in Nottingham and Londons Notting Hill. As a nation, we still have only a dim understanding of the slave system that funded Sloanes collecting. One sporting event that has captured your imagination I was fortunate enough to get tickets to see some of the basketball at the London 2012 Olympics, so my brother and I went to watch the GB vs. Spain game. And the Domesday Book even counts slaves as a separate category below the unfree peasants (villans, bordars and cottars) those owed service to a Lord who could order them to move about and could say yes or no to their proposed marriages, but unlike slaves he didnt own them, couldnt sell them, and they had property rights to at least a smallholding. Eventually, 11,000 separate British slave-trading expeditions resulted in the trafficking of three-and-a-half-million Africans to the New World plantations, the greatest forced migration in modern history until the 20th century. I learned the hard way. I have a peeve about the BBC genealogical show Who do you think you are? which I dont know whether has been inflected upon the Left Pond. Should black history be taught all year round? There are probably a thousand organisations, charities and assorted grifters who would happily cash your cheque. He previously worked at JP Morgan for 18 years in a number of senior roles and was . I think a case could be made. Various among the societies that were agglomerated into Nigeria were more or less involved in that slave trade from the supply end. Watching @worstall execute @richardjmurphy is like watching a very, very clever cat slowly killing at ataxic mouse. 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Equiano is also mentioned in Incomparable World, a novel by SI Martin, which was selected by Booker award-winning author Bernardine Evaristo for her Black Britain: Writing Back series. The point about slave descendants in Georgia being better off than descendants of slave sellers from West Africa is reasonably strong (though look back in everyones ancestry and youre likely to find, far back enough, a mix of slaves, owners and probably traders too). It isnt going to happen anyway. After decades of complaints, the Royal African Company lost its monopoly in 1712 and, Olusoga writes, Independent traders were turned loose upon the shores of Africa. These traders had argued (stone-blind to irony) that the right to enslave Africans was a defining feature of English freedom and that the Royal African Company had breached their status as free-born Englishmen. There is no reason to think one system was more or less brutal than the other. That hes able to write this article is because hes living in what is, by historical standards, a remarkably tolerant society. They have a game plan & youre falling for it. The Benin Dialogue Group announced it had brokered an agreement that will see "some of the most iconic" of the bronzes returned to Benin City, Nigeria, where they will be housed in the soon-to-be-built Benin Royal Museum. Its been banned for two centuries in Britain. . This is a moral argument. But its still awful, even on a historical scale. And so many hundreds of thousands of British workers were directly dependent on slavery (from sailors to those who built, rigged and repaired ships) that it was easy to turn a blind eye to the inhumanity. No member of my family ever owned slaves. A renowned economist has said that $12 trillion should be afforded to black Americans in reparation for slavery to help the close wealth gap.. Not to say it was nice.. So my advice would be, for his own health, STFU. Its very noticable how nobodys mentioning that the Spanish Empire were doing this for several centuries before the British got involved. It wasnt always so & it may not be in the future. The government has said the "flexibility within the history curriculum means that there is the opportunity for teachers to teach about BAME (Black, Asian and Minority Ethnic) history across a spectrum of themes and eras" so it did "not believe it was necessary to change the curriculum". That star stuff wont last. By a Senegalese author: The veiled genocide = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxc5ENT8ajg, MyBurningEars August 30, 2020 at 11:52 am Slavery within West African societies being different again I dont think the places with very high rates of local slavery were anything like the sugar plantations. many African tribes kept slaves. You should know better. Full text must be online somewhere but theres an extract at https://www.history.co.uk/shows/the-real-vikings/articles/eyewitness-to-the-vikings. Id say the same to the Black Lives Matter people. So 10.416 were sold by the Africans every month for one hundred years, There will be no peace on this issue until black people acknowledge their own responsibility for the trade. First launched in London in 1987, it aims to highlight and celebrate what black people have achieved in Britain throughout history. As for the future, the University of Manchester professor says younger generations give him hope. In the UK its not white people enslaving blacks anymore, but Asians enslaving other Asians, as in Leicesters clothing sweatshops. But that ignores how the demand of outsiders led inevitably to far more supply being provided, so I dont think the traders can be given a pass on this front either. As Black British History Month draws to a close, TV historian Prof David Olusoga looks at the impact it's had - and how young people are taking it on. His current research focuses on stress, burnout, and wellbeing in sports, with a particular interest in high-performance environments and elite coaching. I suspect that whether records could prove it or not, its overwhelmingly likely to be true, especially since high-status individuals tend to make a bigger contribution to the gene pool. Societies have what morals suit them. "Equiano is the most important voice that we have from the British experience of slavery and the slave trade," he said. MBE: The problem with the UK paying reparations is that people like Olusoga would have to pay their share of the greatly increased taxes. In that moment, his interest in history overlapped. White communities suffer huge losses from Black crime. And yet Africans and West Indians were banned from the victory parade in 1919. I think it's an astonishing achievement.". He is the author of the 2016 book Black and British: A Forgotten History, which was awarded both the Longman-History Today Trustees Award 2017 and the PEN Hessell-Tiltman Prize 2017. No other race / culture was willing and able to do that. Should black history be taught all year round? Thats fine, BraveFart. There is no reason to think that slavery was nicer in Africa. And the third, fourth, fifth, and so on. "Incorporating the stories of people like Equiano is merely part of a process of looking at all of British history; not just being selective, not only going to the chapters that make us feel good about ourselves or proud.". Olusoga has benefited from and added significantly to the work of Fryer and other historians such as James Walvin. Societies have had a long history of treating minorities harshly. David Olusoga, 49, is a television presenter and historian. Thankfully the Woke have gifted us an all purpos3e response to this sort of crap. "The way history is viewed is changing. White people will take it. Olusoga, who presents the BBC documentary series A House Through Time, told presenter Lauren Laverne that racism was "just the background hum of life" when he was growing up. One of his teachers had a coffee mug bearing a National Front slogan and another attacked him during a school trip, he said. But a group of 12 disciples of Christ set out to change things. My argument is that Africans were probably happily killing each other for women before the West turned up. The strongest argument I can see for reparations is not that white people bear some kind of ancestral blame. Britain's role in the transatlantic slave trade is part of the national curriculum, although it is not statutory. Those who grew rich on slavery and the slave trade were not neutral and no achievement or act of philanthropy justifies airbrushing their involvement from history. 5 quotes from David Olusoga: 'On a peninsula protruding into one of the great highways of the Atlantic slave trade, a few hundred refugees from British slavery in North America were attempting to recreate the social structures of Northern Europe in the Middle Ages.', 'Time and again events and phenomena that we think we know and understand contain within them lost or camouflaged connections to . Tull played professional football for Northampton but instead of signing up for Glasgow Rangers, he enlisted. Fuck right off As a winning debating strategy. Why are these characterizations needed? Flyover Americans arent going to take it. Olusoga is of half Nigerian descent. Pretty much everybody in the West is against slavery. There is no reason to single White people out for unique levels of criticism. 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